Tempe Historical Museum Oral Histories
Narrator: ROSS RICHARD RICE
Interviewer: James S. Bielo
Date of Interview: August 2, 2001
Interview Number: OH - 172
Ross Richard Rice was one of the first professors of political
science at Arizona State University and served on the Tempe City
Council from 1958 to 1962. He was also mayor of Tempe from April
1961 to June 1962. He survived a recall election, Tempe’s
first, over his efforts to modernize Tempe city government. He was
one of five individuals to serve as mayor in as many years.
Dr. Rice was a member of the City Charter Commission in the
1960s, and as such, he participated in drafting a new city charter
for the city of Tempe that provided for a council-manager form of
government. Previously, Tempe had a mayor-council form of
government.
Born in Iowa in the early 1920s, he was drafted from the
University of Chicago to serve in the Air Force during World War II
in 1943. He became an instructor in history and political science
at Arizona State University in 1950 and earned his Ph.D. in
political science from the University of Chicago in 1956.
Dr. Rice died on December 29, 2002 at the age of 80.
For additional information see:
- Obituary, Arizona Republic, 31
December 2002, B6.
- Connie Cone Sexton, "Ex-Tempe mayor, ASU professor, 80, dies of
heart attack," The Arizona Republic, 31 December 2002,
B5.
- Who’s Who in America 1998
- Kerry Fehr, "40-year career of professor ends at ASU," The
Arizona Republic/The Phoenix Gazette, 16 May 1990, Southeast
Community section, 1-2.
In this interview Dr. Rice discusses military service, academic
background, teaching career, and Tempe municipal government.
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Copyright © 2001 Tempe Historical Museum
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RICE: That book over there is my book on Senator
Carl Hayden.
By the way, if you want any more biographical
matter on myself, at least some is found in the big volume which is
Who’s Who in America [for] 1998. So it’s fairly
recent.
BIELO: I guess we can start off with how you
first came to Tempe, how you heard about it and why you decided to
come.
ROSS: I can’t say I knew much about
Arizona or Tempe or [ASU]. I was a graduate student at the
University of Chicago, and I had gotten into the University of
Chicago in an entirely unexpected fashion. I got drafted by Uncle
Sam in late 1943, [served in] England and Italy [unintelligible]
and after several moves in the Midwest starting in Iowa –
Iowa was my native state, I was born in Shenandoah, Iowa. And that
city, by the way, was unexpectedly mentioned in a story in the
Arizona Republic today because of the weather conditions
back there yesterday. They had a combined heat value of 123, which
is higher than Phoenix, Arizona has ever had. It’s a humid
climate back there.
Uncle Sam sent me to Italy, and the reason I got
to Italy, I guess, was my language abilities. I had studied some
Latin in high school and college as well. Took quite a bit of
Latin, in fact. Then I took a Spanish course, and one of the
military enemies in World War II was Italy. They apparently wanted
some people in the American military who had a knowledge of the
Italian language and culture, history, and everything that goes
with it.
I volunteered for an area language study
program. And they had such a one set up at the University of
Chicago. Some of the people who taught in the program we had were
people from the Classics department. I guess some universities
still have Classics departments. Chicago still did at the time.
I arrived in the so-called follow-up action in
southern Italy. North Africa was in hands of the Germans. I have
since found out that I arrived in Italy before the invasion of
Normandy. The invasion of Normandy was, I think, June 6, 1944, and
I arrived in Italy on May 27, [1944], having left Virginia on the
2nd of [May]. I was sent to the town of Tartanto. After
about two weeks I was sent to a town named San Severo, and I was in
San Severo for several months. Rome almost immediately fell. Italy
capitulated. Italy was almost out of the war by the time we
arrived.
I couldn’t say that I was part of the
invasion of Italy because I literally was not. But I wasn’t
too far behind it. The Italians weren’t putting up much of a
struggle anyhow.
I did ride in the back of a military truck
between San Severo and Rome. Rome had just fallen. I was able to go
to the town of Monte Casino. Monte Casino became well known in the
war in that time. Monte Casino was held by the Germans and I
remember seeing some of the shell holes along the road and in Monte
Casino as we drove through in route to Rome.
We returned to San Severo because I was not
transferred to any other location. One of the locations the
American Army had taken was Florence, which was to the north. I was
newly assigned to the 12th Air Corps of the U.S. Army. We flew to
Florence and I was there for about ten months. Then when the war
ended in Italy altogether because the Germans were finally defeated
to them, I was assigned to Naples, which was on the west coast of
Italy. At least it was the way home! I was there almost up until
the end of 1945 and came home on an aircraft carrier.
During the war I was sent to the University of
Chicago in the Army special [unintelligible] training program. I
had read all about Italy and that part of the world, northwestern
Europe as well. I did get out of Italy once during the time I was
there to go to Switzerland. Switzerland was neutral during the war
and there were special travel programs for the military, and I got
in on one of them. I was already working in Naples.
I got to Arizona because I returned to being a
student after the war. I had no degree. I had been drafted in my
junior year of college. They made it possible for G.I.s to get a
so-called G.I. Bill of Rights. You could use it for your degree and
some money was available for living expenses.
To this day, I still do not have a
bachelor’s degree. They gave me credit for a number of
courses I had the equivalent of. In fact, I took my foreign Ph.D.
language requirement in the Italian language, and didn’t have
to take any more courses or special exams. So I got my
master’s degree from University of Chicago in 1949, and I
took the job at Arizona State University in 1950. I finished up my
dissertation and doctoral degree at the University of Chicago in
1956.
In the meantime I was teaching a combination of
history and political science courses. They did not have anyone on
the faculty when I came who had been really trained in political
science. Some people [taught] courses in political science in the
field of history. It was really a multidisciplinary program when I
came here. I considered myself a history major. I moved over to
political science at the University of Chicago. At least the
history gave me a foot in the door to get a teaching position here.
I was here every since.
BIELO: So you got here around ‘57 or
so?
RICE: I got here in 1950 as an instructor in
political science. I lived on Mill Avenue [and] 9th
Street. [We were] there about six years and bought a house in a
development called Date Palm Manor, which is near Mill Avenue and
Broadway Road. We were still there when we moved here [Friendship
Village] early last year.
BIELO: So, when did you first get appointed to
the City Council?
RICE: I was elected to the City Council. Tempe
when I came was a city that had the mayor-council form of municipal
government, with an elected mayor and city council -- one mayor and
six council members. I ran unsuccessfully for the City Council in
19[54?], and I didn’t expect to win.
Four years later I had finished up that illusive
Ph.D. degree and no longer had that in my hair, and in 1958 I was
successfully elected for a four-year term and completed that.
Toward the end of that four-year term, I had the experience of
finding that the Tempe city government was going through sort of a
phase, some ways different, some ways similar, to some of the
phases going on still today. I found that the mayor was out with
one year to go, and I was elected from the Council and by the
Council as the mayor of Tempe. I finished out my term in 1962 and a
full four-year Council term, the last year of which I was mayor of
Tempe.
Tempe must have had somewhere in the
neighborhood of 5,000 people – real small. We just
didn’t have any idea that really the whole American West was
going through a great change in where people lived and how they
lived. The war years had made a big difference. I had been away
from the United States during some of the war period, but people
were moving west, and I simply was being part of it. My wife had
been a student at the University of Chicago. We had met there, and
we were married in Chicago and came to Tempe, and later we had four
children born in Arizona.
Now some of the things we did: the city charter.
Tempe had not had a city charter up until then. It was a "general
law" city in the legal sense. We simply operated under the laws of
the state of Arizona pertaining to cities and towns. We were large
enough to be considered a city because of our population, which was
still by our standards very small.
Realizing the city should have a charter -- that
was accomplished after I left the Council -- it was 1964. I ran for
election to the City Charter Commission, and so I got to
participate in the drafting of the new city charter for the city,
which by the way is still in effect. That provided for a
council-manager plan of government. This was a different plan than
what I had came under. I came under the mayor-council system. Now
we’re going to have a council-manager system.
The manager type of city government comes from
such sources as American business. The corporate form of American
business is similar to the way cities like Tempe are set up now. A
city manager is much like a president of a corporation. The names
have been changed as they so often are, and now they are called
CEOs, chief executive officers. The charter is still in effect. The
council-manager plan is still in effect.
One of the things we tried to do when I was on
the Council was professional staffing, particularly in the area of
finance, budgeting in particular.
I was teaching more and more political science
courses and less and less history. And they even had me teaching
Western Civilization at least one semester. I knew next to nothing
about ancient Greece. At least I had been in modern Italy during
the war!
I introduced a number of new courses and got to
set up the department of political science at ASU. That department
was inaugurated in the 1960s. I taught in the areas of U.S.
federal, Arizona state government, and also regional government to
some extent. Now there is the Maricopa County regional commission
in existence. It has something to do with football stadiums, if
you’ve been reading current events.
One thing that we saw the need for – not I
but the whole Council – four out of seven – was a new
municipal building. You’ve got to have the votes to
accomplish anything. We did not have good permanent buildings for
the size (and times) that Tempe was becoming. The new city
municipal building was designed and built in the 1960s, really
after I had left the Council. We knew it was coming and should
come.
I was active in some social and social science
events. The president of the Tempe Historical Society, I guess I
had that two years, and president of the Tempe Historical Museum,
which is now on Rural and Southern.
BIELO: You mentioned a few of the issues that
the Council was dealing with. Which ones do you think took the most
precedence over the others?
RICE: One of the most pressing issues was to
fill the position of the first city manager. Tempe had had a good
person from another background, but he didn’t have all the
authority that [the position] came to have.
BIELO: What qualities was the Council looking
for in the city manager?
RICE: Some experience in city government
certainly was desirable. But there was more [needed] than just the
barest minimum. We’ve had a number of city managers since my
time. The first one we hired [Cooper] when I was on the Council had
been an assistant manager in the city of Fresno, California. He had
had experience a number of years in Fresno, perhaps in another city
earlier than that. He was tragically killed in an airplane accident
not long after he took the position here. His wife [Dottie Cooper
Nelson] still lives in this area. He had been from California, and
California had become one of the leading states in the nation.
Arizona has kind of had to look to California in a number of ways.
They seem to have the money, the wealth that other states
didn’t quite have.
BIELO: Do you think Arizona is using California
as an example?
RICE: Yes, we used California as a model.
BIELO: Was the redevelopment of downtown an
issue while you were on the Council?
RICE: The redevelopment of downtown was
something we mostly talked about at that time. We didn’t have
the time or the money to do much more. We sort of had to play it by
ear in some respects. We didn’t have a literal blueprint to
follow. Chances are I wouldn’t have lasted as long if I had a
literal blueprint.
BIELO: Were there a lot of differing opinions as
to how to handle that situation?
RICE: Oh, yes. Some people liked the idea of
going outside for a manager. There were a good many other positions
to recruit for. We recruited a budget officer, and the budget
officer was put in the finance department. We recruited eventually
for the chief of police and fire and other departments that cities
need.
And one thing, of course, was Tempe’s
location. Arizona State University has given the city of Tempe the
opportunity to do a lot of things. I wouldn’t even have been
here if there hadn’t have been a college or university. The
university was changing. It had been a state teachers’
college, and then earlier a state normal school years before I
came. We’ve had a lot of history and development to build
on.
I was appointed by the president of the
university to serve as a faculty member on the athletic commission.
So here I was dealing with the football program or the basketball
program and baseball and other sports that we had at that time, and
I wasn’t the world’s greatest athlete myself. And also
I had to kind of live down the University of Chicago connection.
Chicago had a controversial president who had a program dealing
with competitive athletics. He didn’t want anything but
intramural football. That was Robert M. Hutchins, whose name was
quite well known in academic circles at that time, in the 1950s and
‘60s. ASU is quite well known for some of its sports
activities [such as] football, basketball, and track, and baseball,
and now women’s athletics, of course, are a major factor.
BIELO: You had to live down that connection with
Chicago because of Mr. Hutchins?
RICE: In a way, but it helped me with some
people. Some people wanted to be part of a university that had a
strong academic connection and not just sports.
BIELO: You mentioned the fire and the police
chiefs. Were those different city services a big deal as well when
you were on the Council?
RICE: Yes, fire and police were big deals. One
person who was on the City of Tempe’s employment [rolls] when
I came was a man by the name of Art, Arthur Fairbanks [the police
chief.] Fairbanks has a son who is presently the city manager of
Phoenix, Arizona. The father, Arthur Fairbanks, had been one of my
contemporaries. Although we didn’t know each other by name or
physically, we were both in Italy during the war. He was in the
15th Air Force which was long-range bombers, and I was
part of the 12th Air Force which was short-range fighter
planes.
I was never trained by the Air Force as a pilot
or anything of that sort. I later received [unintelligible]
training and I was assigned to aerial photographic intelligence.
That was the kind of unit I was in in Italy. We had planes,
transformed fighter planes, used to photograph military
installations of the enemy, behind the lines. Part of the whole
bureaucratic operation eventually found some of its way into the
present Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
Oh, I was going to mention the fire department.
When I came, to show you the contrast, Tempe did not have a
full-time department. They were all volunteers. They did not have a
paid fire department, but during my time we recruited our first
paid, professional fire chief. We hired a number of people who
joined him. We did a number of things to improve the fire
situation. Even where I live today, at Friendship Village, even
though it has a quasi-self-governing arrangement about it, it is
still protected by city services. Of course, our water supply here
comes through the City of Tempe.
BIELO: When you were on the Council, was there
any interaction between neighboring cities, let say the Mesa or
Scottsdale city councils, with the Tempe City Council?
RICE: Good question, because I left it out. Yes,
fortunately there was a working arrangement already in place when I
came which was has become the League of Arizona Cities and Towns.
It was called the Arizona Municipal League when I came, but it has
now been titled the League of Arizona Cities and Towns. At least
one of my former students has an administrative position with that
office which is in the city of Phoenix.
The League of Arizona Cities and Towns held a
series of meetings or conventions around the state, many of which I
attended as an interested faculty member here at ASU. One of the
courses I taught for quite a long time was municipal (city)
government. Later I [broadened it to] U.S. government and state
government here in Arizona. In fact, one year I was visiting
professor of political science at the University of California at
Santa Barbara. And what did they require me to teach as one course?
California state government. No, my eclectic
background....[Laughter] Fortunately, I had some eclectic
preparation.
One thing I tried consciously to do when I was
mayor was learn the names of the city streets, because suddenly I
didn’t know the city as well as I assumed that I did. I
noticed in the paper just a few days ago an article on Tempe street
names. So there are still controversies involving the name of the
streets in Tempe and in other cities elsewhere.
We became familiar with the city of Phoenix,
being our largest city, and downtown Tempe and downtown Phoenix
were only nine miles apart. Mesa and other cities were likewise.
Because of the series of meetings that were held at least annually,
I had a chance to visit other cities around the state –
Tucson, Flagstaff, Prescott, Yuma, and others.
I can now say that my wife and I rafted down the
Colorado River, 225 miles by river raft. That all got started with
my being on the City Council.
BIELO: Were there any collaborative efforts
between Mesa and Tempe and Scottsdale for any central issues?
RICE: For one thing, we put in the city charter
provision whereby Tempe could cooperate on fire protection services
with nearby cities. So if a hook and ladder truck needed to fight a
fire, and the rescue people in Tempe weren’t around, Phoenix
would send theirs over. Municipal horse trading, you might say in a
way was made possible, for the benefit of both sides in any such
arrangement.
BIELO: As far as the Tempe City Council, what
was the relationship like among the Council members?
RICE: It went up and down. Government is a
social institution, so you don’t see people agreeing on
everything. An issue today, a bone of contention, may not be six
months or a year from now. At one time there were those who were
skeptical about hiring a professional city manager with much
authority and resisted that quite actively, I might add. There was
an attempted recall election for myself as mayor of Tempe back in
my time, but I survived it. One reason I survived [was because] I
wanted to keep that position. As mayor of Tempe I got $50.00 a
month salary instead of the former $25.00 a month that all the
councilmen got. The most I ever was paid by the City of Tempe was
$50.00 a month during the time I was mayor.
I did manage to get around the state [as mayor].
Tempe is an important part [of the state]. A former governor of
Arizona elected was a Tempe resident, Howard Pyle, well-known in
radio and broadcasting. I had one of his two daughters in one of my
first classes at ASU.
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BIELO: Did you spend any time outside of working
on the Council with the Council members going out and doing things
as friends, or was it just business?
RICE: I did not live in the old downtown center.
I lived at 9th Street and Mill Avenue, which was right
across from Tempe Center today and owned today by the university.
Our home was at Broadway and Mill Avenue. We lived there
continuously.
I got the opportunity to do the research work
that eventually was funded through the university, and I did
biographical work on the late Senator Carl Hayden from Arizona. He
had been born in Tempe clear back in 1877. It was published by the
University Press of America in 1994. Then I did research and
teaching and have also been in local government myself. Earlier [in
his academic career] I had the experience of being a combined
research assistant to a former city councilman in Chicago and
former president of the American Political Science Association,
Charles E. Merriam, who had been at the University of Chicago for
many years. He spent almost his entire career there, and was on the
Chicago City Council. He ran unsuccessfully for mayor of Chicago in
1913 or thereabouts. He had lots of stories about the old Chicago
he had known. He was one who advocated the government we eventually
set up in Tempe. But we were more successful in doing it than some
of the older cities in the United States.
BIELO: Why do you think that is?
RICE: There had been a few more political
scientists other than myself who had become involved in local
politics. Some academic political scientists are not too thrilled
with the idea of their brethren getting into local politics. Even I
had to be a little careful when I made a so-called witty remark
about something in my background that might not be fully understood
and appreciated by some of my colleagues.
BIELO: Were there any social effects or
consequences in the community from your becoming a Council
member?
RICE: Finding myself involved in a recall
election was a lot more excitement than I ever bargained for or
expected when I ran for the Council. I fought back with a lot of
help from my friends. No guns or violence was used, but words were
used a lot. The newspapers and radio and other means of
communication were used, so I learned how to deal with the press to
a certain extent.
[Tape recorder was turned off for a personal
remark.]
BIELO: From the time you got here in 1950 to
now, what are the biggest changes you have seen happen to the
city?
RICE: Oh, I suppose, growth and development have
to be the key words. I would say in some ways I was kind of
disappointed looking around at Tempe in 1950. There was a high
school directly across the street from us on Mill Avenue, and we
were told the high school was old and out-of-date, and so it was,
and was going to be replaced. The new building was already underway
down at the intersection of Broadway and Mill Ave. So there have
been lots and lots of changes, some of which I have approved of and
some of which I haven’t [laughs]. But that’s par for
the course. I could and did say a good deal about some issues, and
I found myself as part of the Tempe citizenry as a whole. So
I’ve had a mixture of military, which was basically
unexpected, but I didn’t get to finish my formal education,
and I got my degrees after I got out. I’ve had a rather
interesting life.
BIELO: What do you think caused the big
population boom [in Tempe]?
RICE: From where I sit, I’d say it was the
effects of the war. People were working in different places. I live
in a retirement community now, Friendship Village in Tempe. It
receives services from the City of Tempe, but it is right next door
to Mesa, quite close to Phoenix, and so the effects of those other
cities make a difference. Scottsdale and Glendale and the Indian
Reservations are more active. I followed with interest just shortly
before I retired a student who came from the Navajo reservation in
northeastern Arizona. He was admitted to law school. I think he was
the first American Indian student admitted to law school and he
subsequently didn’t finish it.
The growth of the university, people coming here
many to retire. Here in Friendship Village we have become
acquainted within a short period of time with a lot of people, and
many with very interesting backgrounds. Many were quite successful
in their former careers. My wife didn’t want to come here to
start. She wanted to stay where she was. Her neighbors, she knew
certain people. She was active in several civic opportunities. She
became president of the Tempe Historical Society at one point. She
had taught school here in one of the community elementary
schools.
[Several minutes of general conversation and
about his time in Italy.]
END OF INTERVIEW
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